TheBravestOnline
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| Posted 08/10/11 at 12:04 AM | Reply with quote #1 |
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Buffalo, NY Working House Fire. Vent Job Footage!
Click The Link Below To View The Video:
http://www.thebravestonline.com/news.html?view=1&id=42862
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halligan017
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| Posted 08/10/11 at 08:06 AM | Reply with quote #2 |
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The video doesn't show the incident that well but it looked like they were gettin after it. Stay aggressive and remember what an old Chief said "90% of your problems go away when you get in there and put the fire out". |
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rjd2051
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| Posted 08/10/11 at 09:47 AM | Reply with quote #3 |
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Those guys on the roof look so cool wearing them SCBA tanks. What do they use them for?
Pneumatic chain saw? (Wait, that's an idea!)
I wuz taught always make the first cut the one furthest away from your ladder.
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agates1272
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| Posted 08/10/11 at 11:07 AM | Reply with quote #4 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by rjd2051
Pneumatic chain saw? (Wait, that's an idea!)
Even better idea...why hasn't someone come up with a lithium powered roof saw? With the technology out there today and the power and durability of the new lithium batteries, you'd think it wouldn't be that difficult.
C'mon RJ, let's patent this idea!
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XLNoggin
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| Posted 08/10/11 at 05:09 PM | Reply with quote #5 |
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I've noticed that back east most departments shown in these videos always vent attic fires. Why?
On our department if we have an attic fire we get beneath it and pull just a little bit of ceiling and attack it. The "INTACT" roof helps with the steam conversion and the fire gets put out quicker. Need more access....pull more ceiling. If any of you are on departments that vent attic fires please write and let me know what the theory behind this is.
Now if the fire is in the home and attic, we do vent in order to lower the temperatures, get rid of smoke and get a clearer environment to work in.
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EatTheRoof
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| Posted 08/11/11 at 02:18 AM | Reply with quote #6 |
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| XL-Old houses like this many times have tongue and groove attic floors which makes it extremely difficult, if not impossible to pull ceilings.Really the only option is for interior crews to get up into the attic and make their push,hence the prevailing tactic in the east and for that matter the midwest, is to aggressively vent these types of structures from the roof. |
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XLNoggin
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| Posted 08/11/11 at 09:53 AM | Reply with quote #7 |
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EatTheRoof, thanks for the answer. We don't have to deal with this much since it is extremely rare to find a true attic in the sense that it is big enough to store things or live in. Here in the southwest we have small truss attics and probably 90% of the homes have sheetrock ceilings.
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SurendrdSeraph12
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| Posted 08/12/11 at 12:41 AM | Reply with quote #8 |
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| XL, to go along with what ETR has, in my area (Tennessee), folks store boxes upon boxes of clothes, Christmas decorations, old junk, in their attic. We usually have "finished" or "semi-finished" houses with insulation and flooring, so pulling ceiling generally isn't an option, and getting into/around the attic is near-impossible. We rarely vent in my area, but when it happens, and the theory behind it here, is not just to vent OVER the fire, but over and slightly behind it, so the fire will go back a bit on itself, rather than continuing as much through those boxes. Especially if the fire gets over to the attic ladder before we can get to it (i.e., interior fire and attic fire), any work in the attic will take awhile, so ventilation is the best tactic to slow it now.
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mmfscl
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| Posted 08/12/11 at 11:33 AM | Reply with quote #9 |
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In northern Maine we see many homes with attic floors boarded up and many ceilings and interior walls with boards or plywood underneath. We have trained on older homes only to find it is impossible to poke a hole in ceilings after a vent hole is cut in the roof. We also have many older homes with tin ceilings that are covered with strapping and then covered with sheetrock which creates voids in the ceilings. Only newer homes have sheetrock only on walls and ceilings. |
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