TheBravestOnline
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| Posted 04/12/11 at 10:26 PM | Reply with quote #1 |
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Prince George's County, MD House Fire. Interior Attack with HEAVY Fire!
Click The Link Below To View The Video:
http://www.thebravestonline.com/news.html?view=1&id=38886
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CF417
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| Posted 04/13/11 at 04:40 AM | Reply with quote #2 |
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P.G. County dropped the ball on this one. What they did in the end they should have done in the beginning. But, like all videos on here, we weren't there.
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Buchanresq
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| Posted 04/13/11 at 07:16 AM | Reply with quote #3 |
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The aggressive crews that PG County is known for must have took the day off.
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rjd2051
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| Posted 04/13/11 at 08:33 AM | Reply with quote #4 |
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How to attack? It's simple, attack! I kept seeing the Fire SUV video in my head.
"There is the fire right there, we wanna put some water on that fire"
No way was that an interior attack without first knocking down the majority of the fire from one hose on the A-B corner of that building. 70% of the fire could have been reached then and a sucessfull interior attack could have ensued
Had that been done first the guys called in to demolish this house would have had some work to do. Thanks to these nitwits, there's hardly nothing left.
Why does this video make me think of marshmellows?
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Staysafe
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| Posted 04/13/11 at 08:54 AM | Reply with quote #5 |
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Hit it heavy from the outside then go in and mop it up. |
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Tower253
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| Posted 04/13/11 at 10:44 AM | Reply with quote #6 |
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Gotta agree with RJD. Looks like they got a 2.5 and 1.75 on the ground quick and had the crews to man them. Problem is, they both went to the interior. Man that 2.5 could have done some real good on the B side while the 1.75 got a quick primary and headed for the second floor and attic. I still think they displayed the aggressiveness they are known for. No one was yard breathing or in slow motion. Ladder fellas arrived and were getting after it with ground ladders. Realistically, this thing was gone at about the time the Ladder was arriving. No headway was being made and they had lost the attic. My first words to my engineer would have been to get the stick up and I would be requesting a water supply. |
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Buchanresq
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| Posted 04/13/11 at 02:46 PM | Reply with quote #7 |
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| http://www.firehouse.com/news/top-headlines/maryland-firefighters-survive-close-call-during-house-fire
Link to the video, they call it another close call, what did ya think would happen when you went inside on this one?
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FREPLUG
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| Posted 04/13/11 at 05:58 PM | Reply with quote #8 |
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| Lots of manpower and what seems to be adequate manpower....yet the dwelling is a total loss. Hmmmm the good crews PG is known for must not be at the College Park station. But on the plus side.....it wasn't called a "totally involved" fire. HA Would need to know and see more, but seems to me had they got right in with a couple lines (1 up and 1 down) it would have went out pretty quickly. I know thats how it would have went here.
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TheNickel
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| Posted 04/13/11 at 07:05 PM | Reply with quote #9 |
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We don't know exactly how much fire there was on arrival of the first due, but I'm going to assume it was quite a bit. I would have liked to see the first in engine stop short still leaving the address for the stick. By stopping short, they would have had easy access to the B side and could have deck gunned the piss out of this thing, then went in with the 1.75" to mop up.
I have a lot of respect for the PG guys but this one looked like it got away from them. With the amount of access they had on the B side, I'm disappointed they didn't hit the bulk of it from the outside before it got completely out of control.
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skeletor
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| Posted 04/14/11 at 10:58 AM | Reply with quote #11 |
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Looked to me like they went into autopilot mode. Lines to the front door, ladders to the second story, etc, without ever looking at the fire. From the time the video starts (prior to lines going inside) the fire was in the garage, first floor, second floor, and attic.
Assuming there wasn't a rescue issue, protect the exposure on the D side, big lines on the fire to knock the bulk of the fire down or aggressive salvage opps in the downstairs living room and then big lines.
Either way, the homeowner will get a nice new house.
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wrfire
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| Posted 04/15/11 at 01:55 AM | Reply with quote #12 |
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| Simple. Defensive. Was already gone with the first due got there.
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76Truck
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| Posted 04/15/11 at 10:38 AM | Reply with quote #13 |
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Defensive no doubt, no matter how aggressive you are that wasn't going out with one 1.75 line. Oh well, gotta burn that gear up to look cool I guess.
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davidpaquet
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| Posted 04/15/11 at 11:54 AM | Reply with quote #14 |
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The first thing to know is: is there someone inside? If not, knock down the flames from outside then go inside for an easier agressive attack. Dont waste your lives for an empty house! And of course, when i say go inside for an easier agressive attack, it means you are sure the roof wont go down on your head before that. You have a clear view of the entire roof from sector 2... what about the canon on the ladder from there? |
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agates1272
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| Posted 04/15/11 at 02:53 PM | Reply with quote #15 |
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Wow. This video shocks me a bit. PGC has a solid reputation for smart, aggressive firefighting. They didn't live up to that reputation here, IMO.
Granted, the camera arrives AFTER there are at least two engine companies on the scene and working, so we really don't know what they were dealing with prior to the camera getting there. BUT, based on the conditions we can see, there shouldn't have been anyone working interior.
Looks like a garage fire that spread up the exterior siding and into the attic. The attic is fully involved, and the second floor is compromised. Maybe they were hoping to save the 1st floor, but with that much fire over your head, you're asking for a disaster. As most have already said, large lines outside to get the bulk of the fire knocked down, then get inside and mop it up.
What alarmed me the most though is how long it took to blow the horns to clear the house. Roof gave at 5:40, horns didn't blast until 6:40. A full 60 seconds after roof collapse to evacuate.
I'm glad no one was hurt here. Could have been ALOT worse.
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